I meant no disrespect. We all sin. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and SHALL REIGN WITH HIM A THOUSAND YEARS. With a sitcom dad's wholesome looks, a standup comedian's snappy timing, and an unlikely redemption tale of ditching a career managing Vegas strip clubs to find Jesus, Coy had become a Christian TV and radio superstar. my neighbors are heathens and not under the law of Christ.further I will be raising you in prayer because you obviously need it since youre so bitter and are caring so much burden. In his later days, he began registering cars that were essentially completely custom fabrications as antique automobiles, avoiding major emissions restrictions and tax liabilities. Jesus transforms, not a pastor. God will show love and mercy to whoever he wantsand it might just be all humans at some point. We gotta start getting this right. Join Facebook to connect with Diane Coy and others you may know. I actually felt bad for that new Pastor who was the Youth Pastor because He was not ready. Hmmmm.wonder how you wouldve responded when the adulteress was thrown down at Jesus feet.and he responded let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her. The consequences suffered by the fallen leader will be very instrumental to how the sheep, who are in this flock, respond when faced with their own similar temptations. I have heard the asst Pastors dont make a lot of $-maybe that will all change now. 7. And no I dont listen to Chuck Missler or have a Schofield, I just read the Bible, you should try it sometime! Truth and reality may arise for all involved. Im doubting your ability to graciously recognize that many other Christians have come to other conclusions using the same Bible as your own. The Bible is brutally honest about the failings of the heros of the faith. How do you know that Isaiah is speaking of the millennium other than Missler or some other end times guru told you. ty10124 1 yr. ago. No, there are 2 parts to this Gods and mans. His daughter, Janette Manderson, and his widow, Kay, sued the organization, alleging its leaders conspired to take over Smith's empire and even denied him emergency medical care on his deathbed. I like the blog I posted because they are not calling it moral failings but adultery-which is what the Bible calls it. And I know firsthand that some of the Pastors of these churches knew by mid-week what was going down. I know He is not finished with them yet and I will always believe in His promises to never leave or depart from them! I love this while trying to mock me Flynn said I myself am a disciple of Jesus, so read what he said not what Luther said:. Your response is the first Ive read that seems to hold some hope that I may in fact continue reading this thread. Moe- I thought of the verse Does a dog return to its vomit. My beef with Mac is that his version of the gospel is gospel by correct doctrine and holy living which I dont think is correct. Tell me why you need to be the first w news rather than respecting the church body and unity of faith and respecting that as a congregation, we need to be together to receive our family update. Lets give him room to breathe and an opportunity to make things right with God, then his family before we are so quick to cast stones. {} 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. it is right there in your favorite Rev 20 passage. You have been well shelterd if you are so unaware of what happens in the real world. I stand corrected. He is in the process of restoration. That case was settled out of court, but the attorney who brought the case says that, in general terms, Smith's habit of forgiving and rehiring pastors who have committed sexual offenses is a recipe for disaster. Scary how someone can look you in the eye, while doing a sermon filled with lies. Blessings on your search. It has been intense to say the least. Michael, I do believe weve had this discussion in the past in much detail, so no point in rehashing. Sorry, been in and outlong night on many fronts. In fact, I personally believe in a good and loving God who will forgive all his enemies in the endof which we are all enemies of God as well as his children. Bob Coy, pastor of megachurch Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale has been fired for moral failure. It scares me when I read he should still be the pastor. 29 Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. CAKEGATE 2023: Bad Bunny's Restaurant Accused of Gobbling Birthday Girl's Cake, Death Train: A Timeline of Brightline Fatalities in South Florida UPDATED, Neighborhood Nazi Jon Minadeo Peddles Hate by the Minute, Sen. Rubio's Permanent Daylight Savings Bill Sees Light of Day Once More, NFL Legend Ray Lewis Joins World Jai-Alai League Board of Directors, Affordable New "Micro-Units" Slated for Little River, Edgewater. Lorenzo, http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/80920408899/what-were-reading, Lorenzo, Consider this http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/80107711769/the-libertine. Ill go first. This is the real price of sin in our lives, fully on display. In my opinion, if he did this [to one victim], it's just a question of how many others are out there. They ended up locked in dueling lawsuits, with the pastor accusing Calvary's leaders of skimming profits and the Smiths charging that he used his influence running the radio stations to pressure women into sex. Why so disrespectful? 6 They have power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying; and they have power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they want. I call it the most bs example and cop out of all the other bs to come down the CC pike over the years. Little sister Ive had my struggles at CC and other churches, Ive walked out of sermons and understand the feeling of not relating to Pastors. I wonder if MLD has ever been tempted, and is not realizing that anyone of us could fall given the right circumstances. It will take much longer possible years for healing with his family but it is worth it and will take work. Instead go to the surest source about Jesus, the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Calvinism and dominionism are two different things. He can be restored as a brother but I wouldnt give him the keys to another church. When my wife and I first started attending CCFL in 93 he preached with humility and it was refreshing. On the issue of DC his wife- if you read her page on the church website she explains that she left ministry to raise her kids and be home for Bob. What about them? I also pray he has the right people alongside him-people that truly care about him-like we did. In the huge sanctuary, a ten-piece band including four guitarists, a drummer surrounded by glass sound walls, and two keyboardists rocked out in front of a laser display that wouldn't be out of place on a Justin Bieber tour. Please provide verse my bible does NOT say bar code. Your medication seems to wear off right before bedspeak to your physician. Just like Obama, Tiger Woods a womanizer a piece od scum ..he made his brother apologize in front of the congregation.where was he a coward with no backbone!! Why is that so hard? In theology, the pain, regret or affliction which a person feels on account of his past conduct, because it exposes him to punishment. Christians must never, ever put their faith in the created, only in the creator (Romans 1). We dont speculate. It would be interesting to see how Bob spoke about this topic in his messages. I think the blogger has the best synopsis of what the biblical model is to do in this case. When a blitzed, 26-year-old Coy went to see his brother the next day, Jim threw a Bible at him and told him to read it. dont know if this is what you were going for but.. Used to be able to go space8)space & get the smiley with sunglasses. G, Thank you for your intercession last nightI forgot to turn it off this thread before I went to bed. And yes I have seen it all and have the scoop. I admit that I sin regularly yet there has been a transformation that has taken place within me. And then you want me to take the 1,000 yrs as literal when there has been nothing literal in the chapter? But the case soon stalled. The Charisma article makes it sound like Coy will be back soon.A little rest, a little prayer, some CCFL counseling, a tweak here and a tweak there, problem all gone. Unlike many Protestant churches, which set up powerful boards of elders to oversee ministers, Calvary used a management style Smith called the "Moses method. But with false doctrine he said, But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray., If I had to choose between a repentant Bob Coy or even a Moses model pastor teaching correct doctrine or someone who is morally correct under a board that makes the decisions for the church, and yet teaching false doctrine like that Jesus only died for the Christians and not for the whole world, that there is no free will involved in salvation, when the Bible continually tells us that there is, and when part of their foundation is replacement theology, that is, that the church has replaced Israel and that the tribulation has already happened, then give me the Moses model pastor, sometimes and in many cases we have to choose the lesser of the two evils, as Jesus said, The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; 3therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them. He didnt say stop hearing them. You actually contemplate cheating on your wife because something as trivial as an ad pops up on your FB page? Time to Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.2Tim 2:15. The strange thing is that Mark was with Bob for almost the entire 30 years as his #1 right hand man and Mark was a brilliant businessman. The Asst Pastors are pretty weak with the exception of Bill Schott BUT he is a teacher and not evangelical. Am I Chuck Smiths disciple? Her first three children with her husband Steve are Stephen "Danny" Daniel (born 1979), Cheryl Lynn (born 1976), and Christie Ann (born 1974). One problem with doing research, particularly through the internet search engines, is that you will find whatever you are looking for. Bob chose to do that.. He was already richI. Hey 99.9% of guys do or they are lying! This is all speculativebut something I know all too well. The reason for the resignation is a "moral failing," according to Calvary Chapel leaders, as reported by the Christian Post. Indeed, police records show no progress on the case until eight months later, on April 4, 2016, when Coy's young accuser showed up at Coral Springs Police headquarters. OK, then dont tempt them by giving them too much power and authority. He resigned. Coys position on Israel is moot if his relationship with his wife is on the rocks. Hooked on porn for years. The detective told her that he couldn't destroy the files, but he closed the case that day. Answer truthfully now! Barbara first off, that was not the question. Also some of these churches are teaching that there is no rapture but all the prophecies in Revelation have already been fulfilled, and that Nero was the antichrist, so theres a lot of sifting through garbage that you have to go through to find a good church! Even some well known senior pastors have some unopened closets from the days of their youth. ( When I signed in, it asked for my first and last name seemed simple enough.!) I have always been amazed I wouldnt know how to tell a dirty joke or swear in front of a strange woman. Now either dialogue with respect or go back to selling bridges to imaginary Calvinists. Coy was fired from his consulting job at a South Florida nightclub, The Funky Biscuit. I speaketh not about Bob Coyeth, but about the living stones that compriseth the church of God, that you and your luciferian minions cannot stand against as His church marcheth triumphant!!! PS Connie and Ashleigh (Pastors Gregs wife) have been afflicted with cancer I will ask you all to hold them in prayer this month please. Now after commenting about 1st looks etc, I must confess that I have the hots for Stevie Nicks. No one will recognize him on the beaches of South France or strolling through Florence. That is precisely what I was working my way to. I could see being gracious to a guy who practiced and modeled it and was truly privatebut the fact is Coy was a big time celebrity (and probably will be again) and he had a broad congregation and broad viewershipand its probably right to let everyone know what happenedwhich as usual the blogs are standing in the accountability gap. Many members expressed disappointment, encouragement, and hope on the church's Facebook page. I pray that his marriage survives, and his children will forgive him. You judge that we are judging him, when the truth is it was his board who judged him and found him guilty as heck. a normal message from an assistant with no mention whatsoever of anything. What is HIS selfish and SATAN centered motive for this exposure?????? awesome. Published November 28, 2014. You keep making claims that are revealing of your stature. Again, shout it to the masses when its other peoples sins like gay marriage etcor make assistant pastors go before the church and confess (Bob Grenier did that stuff)but grace and mercy and lets give the family their privacy etc when its the Senior Pastors turn to face the music. Contents show Robert J. Because I dared tell the truth about your idol? What was the result of your victimization? It also seems to be an across the board thing crossing doctrinal and denominational lines not limited to one type of church governance. Its as consistent as the law of gravitythe CC senior pastor marching up the sinner in front of the church to confess their sin publiclythen when its their turnthey want maximum grace and privacy and its a different standard. CNN's Coy Wire recalls being on the field when play continued after two catastrophic football injuries - as a college player and while playing with the Buffalo Bills, who must now cope with what . Was it a dragon or a serpent? Stop this! You become an accuser of the brethren for the sake of your worship. People were asked to make pledges. Michael, Concerning your #131 post In the aftermath of what happened to me at a CC church with a serial adulterer (most of you know of whom I speak,) I have maintained off and on contact these past ten years with 4 of the women who also told this pastor NO when he propositioned them. I am not talking about positional but relational restoration. . I dont take pleasure in his fall but it appeared inevitable. Unfortunately, we have seen too many pastors rush back to the pulpit without being ready and honoring God with true repentance. Join thousands of others to get the FREEDOM POST newsletter for free, sent twice a week from The Christian Post. Every man of God gets tempted by the three Gs.. David, Jerry Falwell despised Bakker because of his theology and his lifestyle. Sharon Leone (Diane Farr) is Vinces wife and the Chief of Division 1501 on the CBS original drama, Fire Country. It was scheduled and was cancelled. Dont know the person but I think they attended CCFL. So heres to you hypocrites as you go to bed tonight and pull out the pleasure files! Well when you do bad stuff and get caught sometimes you have to pay a price and Im not sure it is the best thing for churches to put guys right back in Positions of Trust and power over folks telling them how to live and what to do etc. Did he confess before or after he was busted? They'd already sold their Coral Springs house about six months after he resigned; the settlement divided their substantial remaining assets including a $330,000 Hillsboro Beach condo he still owns and defined custody of their two children. I have to agree. Columnist Gray Baskerville called CadZZilla "the most incredible transformation he'd ever witnessed",[5] and in their "History of Hot Rods & Customs" the auto editors of Consumer Guide praised it as "the first really new type of custom since the heyday of the 1950s".[4]. Anonymous dont buy the lie men do not cheat because an ad pops up on their FB page. We had to depend on recommended books and the Lord.and blogs like this. I sincerely hope the congregation not only survives it all but even thrives. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth. Flynn, what else have you learned from Chuck Missler and your Schofield Bible? "We are not led by a board of elders.". Failings that are evidence of deep and chronic character flaws by their nature require a different kind of remediation. MLD wrote: But I should know better than to engage with people who hold to replacement theology. I agree. Broward State Attorney Mike Satz says he was never notified about the investigation. Afterwards BC was the poster boy for raising money and he spoke for Crown Financial on how to get the church to give. Lots of times these powerful pastors mete out some discipline or are heavy-handed with a churchgoer and not as gracious as they could have been or maybe the pastor was wrong the sheep was rightand then the pastor gives them the left foot of fellowship and the rest of the ginormous following does the shunning etc.so I understand why some will have their moment of glee over this. Am I hearing that part of fundraising project plan involved Bob and his wife putting a price on the biblical practice ( and requirement for elders) of hospitality, charging people to have dinner or lunch with them. And so if you cant read shall reign with him 1000 years as shall reign with him 1000 years, that is your personal issue. We were aloneit was impossible to get good counseling because everyone in the county knew him and it was a conflict of interest. findre, This is exactly why we are to rely on God and not in man. Especially when you twist the truth and cannot backup your allegations. 21 FOR THEN THERE WILL BE GREAT DISTRESS, UNEQUALED FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD UNTIL NOW, AND NEVER TO BE EQUALED AGAIN. How you define orthodoxy isnt the final word on the matter, is it? How was this non bodied being bound with a chain? He had no reason to suspect that Jake would be an alcoholic. I do not think praise Bob poor guy comments should be happening about his noble repentance when so many facts are unclear. We all know that we are all sinners saved only by Gods grace. Thak you for sparing me hahaha, I already had my sleep for the night, and for not trying to make me a Calvin disciple, I see how they turn out hahaha! Is it ok, in your world view, that I feel a profound sadness at the pain and destruction his betrayal has caused him and those in his universe? "When Chuck Smith died, there was nothing left to hold back all the competing factions," church critic Michael Newnham says. What else was I wrong about? Who cares about me now that Im not influential or important?. All over FB all the loyal supporters from his church are posting what I view as self-righteous comments. Im not married. And bravo to a strong board if they are able to prevent these common pitfalls of a fall. Nobody is perfect. Flynn, You are a false teacher you said that your Bible said that the SEVEN YEAR tribulation will be. how do you know Pastor Bob wasnt victimize? What is Bob Coy doing now? Deal with that and then come talk to me. She can immerse herself into a good story no matter the genre or form and only come out from it when she's had her fill. Yes I do. There is a lot more mercy proffered on this blog this weekend regarding this matter than I read last weekend when the subject was the WV matter. It was equally awful telling a pastor friend this. Im in good standing with my church and those Im accountable to. Neo Coral Ridge does not the same doctrinal position as CCFL. So please put blame where blame is due, Bob Coy. Some of Coddington's signature innovations were his custom-fabricated alloy wheels, typically machined from a solid aluminum billet, an industry first. I still live Pastor Bob. And pray with you for repentance! Just saying. When it comes to blasting issues like Gay marriage from the pulpitsCC uses newspaper, tv, radio you name it. I always kinda felt sorry for his wife..now more than ever. According to Jesus definition of adultery, you are just as much an adulterer as Bob Coy is! We must keep our eyes fixed on JESUS. http://www.openbible.info/topics/election. The subject was brought up suggesting that church and Flynn was correct in most of his post which addressed those issue. Its too much temptation, too much power, causes too much pride, etc. Is this how you interpret scripture, treat those who disagree with you with mocking barbs? Then Outreach Pastor Chet Lowe specifiedto the congregation that Coy "committed adultery with more than one woman" and "committed sexual immorality, habitually, through pornography.". Pastor John has always publicly spoken about his sins of adultery, Im not aware of Fidels but I am aware of others, regardless this isnt about the leaders more so than the entire body. Jimmy kind of got thrown under the bus, he did not get all of these gracious words for his infraction. Michael, one of the best messages I heard was when you posted Bob Sweats message on this topic. In other words you are fighting for a literal 1,000 yr period for a non existent kingdom. Refuse to let that man and his family go. It's still not clear how Coy's sexual indiscretions came to light in 2014. Those board members probably realize that his broken trust with the congregation is one that cannot be regained with Bobs words. I think it is a great post. Debbie, Larrythe next few days are going to be very difficult for you. The best counsel I received was to keep my eyes on Jesus and off of man. Diane's son survived the accident with several injuries and the passengers in the Tracker suffered minor injuries. I still have the cassette tape. If you live in the area, you know it is not easy finding a church when you are looking for meat. The p0rn habit is insatiable, gotta treat it like a heroin addiction and view it as just as dangerous to you or it will eat you alive if you want to be married and be a father to your kids and if you want to remain a public pastor teaching against such things. What I know of Jesus was a reference to this blog in a news report, so I came to read it and all I read are hypocritical wolves tearing at the wounded, self righteous people looking down their noses at others, so if this is Christianity I would rather be with those who are honest and forthright, and theyre not on this blog! BD, how can you say youre not a Calvinist and yet stand idly by while they pervert the scriptures and negate the truth and promises of God, sounds like youve been brainwashed by 600 years of lies! This is not a time to gloat that a prominent CC pastor has fallen. Finally starting to pray. Im not doubting your passion for your convictions. It has nothing to do with the Bible. Coy's flock, which had followed him for decades as the church became Florida's largest, was devastated. "We had a big party at the casino girls, cocaine, alcohol, the whole thing. I struggle with hate for it, and my own self image because of It. "Never.". Look up all the scenes with thrones and Gods people gathered around and determine if it is on earth or in heaven. The divorce file includes nearly 30 pages of documents related to their finances and settlements.